i think especially the president of the united states. i don't think whether it's ten days before a campaign or the first two weeks of his administration. i just think that the idea of putting the president of the united states off the record is not a good idea. there are occasions i good where you'd have to do it -- i guess where you'd have to do it. i think in particular in a case when the interview is pegged to -- you know, an editorial endorsement that's going to come out in a matter of days, just -- >> you know what, iowans got what they wanted in the end. and i say that this is because, again, of social media. so the editor writes that note, right? in the past he would have written that note, and where would it have gone? in his paper the next day. but now, it spreads like wildfire across the internet. and there's this public outcry saying, why is this off the record? this shouldn't be off the record. >> and what would happen if you said something newsworth? -- if he said something really newsworthy? would the writer have gone off t